September 2004
Re: Wet test of polyurethane glue (8 messages)
Wed Sep 01 2004
... wrote: I suspect a couple of things that might be at the root of this ... to be ... specified ... Hi John, I believe your first choice for the root of the
Re: Photo's and Which boat? (2 messages)
Wed Sep 01 2004
... Aside from human-powered boats, Shivaree.
Re: [bolger] Drive Options (2 messages)
Wed Sep 01 2004
The tunnel fills up with water as soon as the prop starts turning, so you d still have a hole in the hull, except at rest and even then it ll be pretty close
Re: BOW FILLER (12 messages)
Thu Sep 02 2004
... Indeed! Han Van Pelts did a superb and intelligent rendering of a Bolger Champlain.Of course,the lucky devil is a cabinet-maker by trade,and it shows.He is
Re: [bolger] Outlets for Bolger Boat Plans, etc. (2 messages)
Thu Sep 02 2004
Best course of action is to use this group to narrow down the designs that might suit your purpose, then refine your choice by faxing any further questions
Re: [bolger] Re: fitting polycarbonate? (7 messages)
Fri Sep 03 2004
Sounds like you guys are mixing up polycarbonate and plexiglas (aka acrylic). Polycarbonate is very hard to crack. You can beat on it and bend it without doing
Re: [bolger] Search Archive (2 messages)
Fri Sep 03 2004
Yes, yahoo searches blocks of messages (you cannot control the block size) not the whole archive. If you simply hit the search button again, it will continue
Re: Rogue waves (14 messages)
Fri Sep 03 2004
Some pictures of open ocean storm waves at this link: http://tinyurl.com/3qhbb -Jerry
Re: Big pram? (14 messages)
Sat Sep 04 2004
Yes, we still have Tetard. It made an appearance at the messabout in Kingston, Ontario last year, where it demonstrated great capacity. Had 4 adults on board
Re: [bolger] Re: PL Preimum (4 messages)
Sat Sep 04 2004
Here in Spain we don´t have the same brands as you have, so I haven´t had a chance to try PL premium, but I have used other polyutethane glues. The one I
Re: Not A Bolger Boat....but, (11 messages)
Sat Sep 04 2004
... For those who don t know where Texas is, but who do know Chesapeake Bay, John Welsford will be at the Small Craft Festival at the Chesapeake Bay Marine
Re: [bolger] Re: finishing a hull and hiding blimishes? (6 messages)
Sat Sep 04 2004
I have used a Sandvik long handle scaraper with success to remoce runs and othe large imperfections.
Re: [bolger] Re: bolger box stability? (5 messages)
Sun Sep 05 2004
And yet wooden masts have some bouyancy which, at least on small boats, limits the capsize roll to about 100 to 110 degrees. Bear in mind that boats in
Bruce Tyson has started another Bolger boat - a "Spur II" (1 message)
Sun Sep 05 2004
Hi everyone, While my father is still yet to launch his Bolger designed Dolly T ( Harbinger -From Folding Schooner Book) catboat( soon, very soon, I
Re: [bolger] shaving my head. (3 messages)
Mon Sep 06 2004
... LOL, I did the same thing today. I got a bunch of urethane glue in my hair and did not notice it. But I just yanked a big tuft of hair out and will keep on
Re: [bolger] Re: Tools! (11 messages)
Mon Sep 06 2004
Amen, especially when a tool is not often used. If I am using it constantly then I start to look for better quality. I can admire people who have the
Re: Nymph Surgery (3 messages)
Mon Sep 06 2004
I don t have a lot of experience sailing but my kids and I really enjoy taking it out. None of us really care for rowing and we have yet to be becalmed to
Re: [bolger] Thickness of Lexan? (4 messages)
Mon Sep 06 2004
I used 1/8 Lexan, bought on Ebay, on my Micro Navigator, and think it is at least ten times stronger than 1/4 plywood. It does flex a bit, and that bothered
Re: [bolger] Yellow Leaf (3 messages)
Tue Sep 07 2004
... Outwales... inwales. Like belly buttons. -- Craig O Donnell Sinepuxent Ancestors & Boats The Proa FAQ
Re: tools (5 messages)
Tue Sep 07 2004
... picking ... Yes, my wife was like that too. She claimed things like tools did not belong on the kitchen table;-) Nels
Re: Enclosed Cruiser Option - aka MICRO NAVIGATOR (2 messages)
Wed Sep 08 2004
Nels- Glad you got the plans, sorry about the tariff........see what happens when you follow the directions :) Seriously was it a loony or toony in tax? If it
RE: Micro mooring (and anchoring)? (8 messages)
Wed Sep 08 2004
Thanx again for informative insights re. mast stepping. Doing most of the work pre-launch while still on the trailer is actually what I had in mind. I just
RE: [bolger] Digest Number 2169 (along with Micro mooring...) (1 message)
Wed Sep 08 2004
Oops! Sorry folks, for plugging your mail boxes with the entirety of digest #2169. I was in the process of snipping off all the excess baggage and somehow hit
Re: [bolger] Re: Bolger 30' cargo motor sailer? (4 messages)
Thu Sep 09 2004
Do you know what part of AK? HJ
Re: [bolger] Bolger plans (12 messages)
Thu Sep 09 2004
Bolger also writes an article about twice a month in the magazine _Messing About In Boats_, which is another source where you can learn about which boat plans
Re: [bolger] Sodium silicate amount... (5 messages)
Thu Sep 09 2004
Thanks for the answers, they are very helpfull for me. I will go to buy the s.s. tomorrow, may be I can prepare my keel next week... Bruce, I really
Re: [bolger] Re: Newbie question about Birdwatcher article (angle of heel question) (41 messages)
Fri Sep 10 2004
... No, I don t think so. For one thing, the beam of a 60 catamaran are considerably wider than legal trailer width. ;-) YIBB, David
Re: [bolger] Bruce Tyson's Spur II / Six string!...??(Responding to Peter Lenihan) (2 messages)
Fri Sep 10 2004
... I agree, from first hand experience, that Spur II is a truly supurb rowboat. Next time, I hope to try the home build rowboat cartoon from Small Boat
Re: Digest Number 2171 (7 messages)
Sat Sep 11 2004
... Heeling on a sharpie ... waterline length. Oh yes it will.....:-) Peter Lenihan
Re: paint or varnish first? (2 messages)
Sun Sep 12 2004
I always put on the varnish first. I find it easyer to clean it up than latex paint.
Re: my bills are gone... (1 message)
Sun Sep 12 2004
... wrote: What tools did you use? Pictures, please? I just crumple them all up in an old TIM-bit, add a little diesel, et voila, instant viking bill
Re: Old bolger vs new . . . (2 messages)
Sun Sep 12 2004
... and mix and match features to suit my personal requirements. As a (mostly) day sailor I d do without the electrics, but I d certainly go for the OB.
Re: launch approaches! (4 messages)
Sun Sep 12 2004
... Nah, i m a grad student and sit in front of a computer all night working on a thesis and doing grunt work for my advisor and the US forest service
Re: [bolger] Cruising English canals, Weston Martyr (16 messages)
Sun Sep 12 2004
Another good site on cruising the English canals is: http://www.canaljunction.com/ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: Peterborough Messabout (2 messages)
Sun Sep 12 2004
Thanks for the nice words, Bruce. The gentleman with the Friesian Schouw (sp) was John Walker from just south of Peterborough. John s no amateur builder having
Re: The Cormorant has landed (3 messages)
Mon Sep 13 2004
Hi Aaron -- Yes, Cormorant is the design name. Design by Jim Michalak, 31 feet long. I still haven t settled on a name for the boat itself. Several keep
Re: [bolger] Re: Japanese Beach Cruiser (15 messages)
Mon Sep 13 2004
Re the Paceship 17 capsize: After years of experience I came to realize that the boat was either (a) poorly designed or (b) not built to the designer s
Re: [bolger] Re: Sharpies, heeling, and waterline (11 messages)
Mon Sep 13 2004
Peter s right, the Micro is a tad on the fat side to be considered a Sharpie. To read PCB on the whole potbellied/longer waterline when heeled/less wetted
Photo Opportunities (2 messages)
Tue Sep 14 2004
I was lucky enough to have lunch with Phil and Susanne yesterday. They are fine and want to know what we are up to over here but realize that they don t have
Re: [bolger] Re: Mid Atlantic Small Craft Festival (12 messages)
Tue Sep 14 2004
By the way, I m tryingto get in touch with Robin at the museum as regards the judging activities. Not that my workmanship is worthy of praise, but just to say
Re: Gloucester Yawl/"Small Boats" Book (14 messages)
Tue Sep 14 2004
... I agree. Bolger has since designed other boats that might be better choices, including the Singapore Gig. John Welsford s 6 meter whaler is more
Re: sources for SS (2 messages)
Tue Sep 14 2004
Take a small magnet along with you. Good-quality 18/8 stainless steel is non-magnetic. Howard
Re: [bolger] Re: Stainless Steel : working with metal (14 messages)
Wed Sep 15 2004
I have used an old blade and a radial arm saw for complex bevels. I built a whole beater bar and reel system for a herring boat doing this. HJ
Re: [bolger] Re: Another Birdwatcher Photo (24 messages)
Wed Sep 15 2004
The latest MAIB arrived today and it features part 2 of PCB s write-up on BW II. Roger derbyrm@starband.net http://derbyrm.mystarband.net/default.htm ... From:
Re: Navigator Mizzen boom (2 messages)
Wed Sep 15 2004
What a good idea Derek, thanks very much, neat job. I will look at it when I can find some spare time. I have a feeling there are lots of other snags in
Re: Another Birdwatcher photo (8 messages)
Wed Sep 15 2004
John Craig did a write up on his junk rigged Birdwatcher on Duckworks magazine. I don t see the writeup on their site anymore. I have a Dovekie and asked him
Re: [bolger] Re: Instantboat sails (23 messages)
Thu Sep 16 2004
I guess it s about time for me to barge in here with my two cents. As a matter of fact I d rate Bohndell about as high as any sailmaker I ve ever dealt with.
[Fwd: [viking-ship-plans] Biannual Australian Wooden Boat Festival] (1 message)
Fri Sep 17 2004
This isn t directly Bolger-related, but it is interesting, especally if you like old ships, viking replicas etc etc. There is some bolger potential in the
Re: [bolger] growing fascination w/Birdwatcher (8 messages)
Sat Sep 18 2004
... Yes, but they can have double sprits and/or clubs on the end of the sprit. -- Craig O Donnell Sinepuxent Ancestors & Boats
Fiji and Hasler study plans etc (1 message)
Sat Sep 18 2004
I ve made .hul files for these two boats based on the scanned images in the group files, however they are very poor quality images for taking measurements off,
Re: [bolger] _Shrike_ photos uploaded to Bolger3 (4 messages)
Sat Sep 18 2004
Thanks for the direction. I had forgotten that Sue had started a His and Her before I got mobilized. It is a pretty design. HJ
Re: micro keel? (7 messages)
Sat Sep 18 2004
Bruce, I agree... I did not mean to drink the beer ahead of time, I meant after the event had concluded. This is the most dangerous part of the operation,
Re: [bolger] Re: links? (3 messages)
Sun Sep 19 2004
http://www.boat-links.com/
Peterborough messabout photos (1 message)
Sun Sep 19 2004
I posted a few shots grom the event in the Messabout group. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Messabout/files/Peterborough%202004/
Chinese Gaff Rig Experience (1 message)
Sun Sep 19 2004
I have corresponded off of this forum with Derek regarding his experience with the Chinese Gaff Rigged Micro (picture in Bolger3 under Micro Gaffer). There
Re: [bolger] Chebacco happenings (3 messages)
Sun Sep 19 2004
Roger, I have to say your design appears more functional than mine, even if it took a bit longer. The good news is I think I ve got a functional setup at the
Re: [bolger] mahaogany plywood from china (3 messages)
Mon Sep 20 2004
See if you can get a small piece and do the dishwasher test suggested by a member of this group. Put it in your dishwasher for about a month while you run your
Re: [bolger] Re: folding schooner tales (5 messages)
Mon Sep 20 2004
... I have given Iceboat for Two a lot of thought. One issue is that a Land Yacht for the Burning Man festival is essentially a one use thing. So, ending
Re: Chebacco mizzen mast question (10 messages)
Mon Sep 20 2004
The sprit has to land somewhere on the mast to keep both leech and foot tight -- it acts like a vang when you find the right spot, and keeps the sail flat and
Re: [bolger] re lead shot as keel weight (3 messages)
Tue Sep 21 2004
On The Question of Ballast- 1) Sealing stainless steel off from the air will make it corroad(stain and rust) 2) Steel sealed in the same maner will alsoover
Re: [bolger] Re: Digest Number 2187 (4 messages)
Tue Sep 21 2004
... Be careful of going this route. The guy on rec.boats.building who did this found that the lead wasn t suitable because it had the wrong antimony content,
Re: [bolger] Re: Concrete Oldshoe Keel and Shot as Keel Weight (11 messages)
Tue Sep 21 2004
... I did three successive pours, and the layers stuck together good enough. The stick together is better if the lead is hotter than just barely melted.
Diesel Launch (1 message)
Tue Sep 21 2004
Could someone please send me more on this design. Don Tyson
Re: Concrete Oldshoe Keel (34 messages)
Wed Sep 22 2004
... Just to keep the record straight - In his latest advice about STORM PETREL, Mr. Bolger recommends installing an OLDSHOE type keel - to give more ballest
peters folding schooner report (1 message)
Wed Sep 22 2004
. Thanks for the news peter. Its good to know that Folding schooners are capable of a serious sail now and then. We are 10 days away from the biggest
Re: [bolger] Re: AS-29 interior photos, Birdwatcher II, Bolger Photos (7 messages)
Wed Sep 22 2004
... Perhaps there is a third way, which would be for you to post the html file you made (as a start) to the Files section of this Yahoo group. Keeping it
Re: Lead for keel (3 messages)
Wed Sep 22 2004
Susan, Their price list for pigs claims that their prices are in U.S. dollars (althouth it looks like they haven t updated their price sheet since October
re dory gunwhal flex (1 message)
Wed Sep 22 2004
Susan Davis wrote that her Gloucester Gull was a little flexy. If I am not mistaken, you will get more stiffness if you double the width of the gunwhale
Re: [bolger] Champlain (12 messages)
Wed Sep 22 2004
Marine concepts in Tarpon Springs FL is listing a Champlain in their brokerage pages for $30K. JohnT ... From: Nelson Gardner To: bolger@yahoogroups.com Sent:
Re: Bolgeresque landyacht (3 messages)
Thu Sep 23 2004
... Think 31 high speed forklift. with crew shooting overboard at eachturn. think ofthe acceleration during a gybe. the designyou drew is like the a mark 1
Re: [bolger] Otter II, Sneakeasy (8 messages)
Thu Sep 23 2004
... Amen, Howard. I will add that I put together what I believe was the second Topaz hull from four sheets of Bolger plans. I found numerous errors in
for sale (1 message)
Thu Sep 23 2004
Hiya, am so spoiled by my shallow draft Bolgers, Bantam and States Class Sharpie I have decided to offer my Albin 25 for sale. She is in Fort Pierce Fl. on a
Re: New Subscriber question (2 messages)
Thu Sep 23 2004
Welcome to the group, Jim. I m sure no-one minds how many newcomer questions you ask, within reason. I d say no-one has answered you yet because no-one knows
[bolger] Re: Birdwatcher Keels (7 messages)
Thu Sep 23 2004
... Twin keel = bilge keel. If you want a keelboat to stand up, that s what you do. -- Craig O Donnell Sinepuxent Ancestors & Boats
MICRO NAV & BWII Files Added to Bolger4 (1 message)
Thu Sep 23 2004
I have added some files at Bolger4. One in the BIRDWATCHER folder and created a MICRO NAVIGATOR folder with an overvew of the lastest upgrade. This is to
Re: [bolger] Re: Epoxy Comparisons (6 messages)
Fri Sep 24 2004
... surface--- it is very ... I work in Richmond, CA and a year or so back, I stopped in to check epoxy product, epoxy knowledge and epoxy prices at Smith
Re: [bolger] Re: Phil's hat (12 messages)
Fri Sep 24 2004
... Makes sense, I couldn t imagine Phil Bolger wearing a gimmee hat with advertisment on the front...
Re: [bolger] Re: box keel & CB (4 messages)
Fri Sep 24 2004
Aircraft designers consider that compressibility effects begin above 200 mph. Thicker skin is required. Below 200, air is just as incompressible as water.
Re: Windmills (1 message)
Fri Sep 24 2004
Dutch windmills probably not very efficient. I ve seen video of an Aquacat with a modern windmill geard to a water propellor, and yes, it would go straight
Re: More Quotes (5 messages)
Sat Sep 25 2004
... wrote: All of these are ... Reminds me of a girlfriend I once had who was always able to produce a lot of lift....Whooooops!!!!! All
Re: Dutch Windmills Correction (1 message)
Sat Sep 25 2004
... NOT! Rather http://www.woodenboat.com/wbbacki.htm
Re: [bolger] Re: box keel and centerboard (22 messages)
Sat Sep 25 2004
Without conceding the number that could dance on the point I would like to point out the subject under discussion was how many can dance on the head. I would
Re: [bolger] Re: Windows, was Design 635 (33 messages)
Sat Sep 25 2004
Do you have any pictures of the process and the results? HJ
Re: more questions about steel plate ballast attachment? (7 messages)
Sat Sep 25 2004
Yes. Sir Humphrey Davey knew, understood and wrote about it -- even recommending using iron sacrifical anodes on hulls -- by 1824. Whether it was unknown to
Re: [bolger] micro rudder post.......last question i promise. (2 messages)
Sun Sep 26 2004
If you cut the hole in the bottom of the boat oval shaped, you can thread the rudder post in at an angle, without lifting the boat at all. I then screwed on
Re: [bolger] Re: New old bolger boat....st. valerie & Smaller URLs (10 messages)
Sun Sep 26 2004
I agree that Beebe s book is subversive. An equally subversive one in the other direction is Jerome W Fitzgerald s Sailing with Purpose . Somewhat of a rant
Re: way off topic computer question for boat building web page (2 messages)
Sun Sep 26 2004
... Jason - I suspect you mean sftp? filezilla is a good open source way to do that (if you use windows)- you can get it from sourceforge.net. Lots of choices
Re: Dutch Windmills -- now on-topic (14 messages)
Sun Sep 26 2004
I din t realize until just now how on-topic we ve been, ever since Nels first post. In 100 Small Boat Rigs, straight after talking about the Flettner rotor,
Re: [bolger] Instant Boats what designs? (4 messages)
Sun Sep 26 2004
Hi, Instant Boats green cover book are ... Teal in build sequence Elegant punt Surf Zephyr 12 Kayak Folding Schooner Rob B ... From: sctree To:
Re: [bolger] Re: mounting my lexan windowsin a navigator? (10 messages)
Sun Sep 26 2004
I in the not to distant past owned a Wharrham Cat---- all the port lights needed replacing--i used lexan-----this is what I was told and did and it seemed to
Re: Oldshoe for Sale (4 messages)
Mon Sep 27 2004
... Nels, Me and my Oldshoe live near Watsonville, CA. It comes with a sturdy galvinazed trailer. This is a nice boat. You should come and see it if you can.
Bolgers Ocean Racer For Sale (Power) (1 message)
Tue Sep 28 2004
Bolger fans & friends. My business partner and I purchased what I believe to be the only specimen of design #127. This was an ocean racer that Mr. Bolger was
Re: pointy bow micro gaffer for sale on ebay, new link (2 messages)
Wed Sep 29 2004
sorry, try: http://tinyurl.com/6d5d7 jason
Re: [bolger] Digest Number 2200 (6 messages)
Wed Sep 29 2004
Barry--The only time I ve built foam into a boat was in a Bolger Sweet Pea. I used white foam insulation which I cut more or less to shape with a hand saw,
Boatbuilding Costs (1 message)
Thu Sep 30 2004
Not sure if people recall smallshelters who built his BRICK last May and learned to sail in it? Well he s going on to more complicated things now and is
Re: Health and fitness for sailors? (39 messages)
Thu Sep 30 2004
... ********************************** Mentioning your mother reminds me of an experience I once had. I used to work for the Government and train and certify
Re: helpful information (13 messages)
Thu Sep 30 2004
Sorry,that last post went without my signature, and few words to the peson I was responding to, saying that it is a good idea to sign posts. Howard
Re: Texas Micro (30 messages)
Thu Sep 30 2004
Sounds like he should knock on the door or report him to BPS ( Bolger protective services) Keep us posted if you find out more info. Or if you want to sail