October 2003
Re: [bolger] Re: More on Alisa - and thanks! (7 messages)
Wed Oct 01 2003
Frank, Where is landenberg, PA. Maybe I could swing by and look at it. I have a little experience restoring and alot of glue mixing experience. Don Easton, PA
Re: [bolger] Freeboard (2 messages)
Wed Oct 01 2003
Both the Micro, [& Micro Navigator, which I am building], and the AS-29 are designed with the openings *only* on the center line of the boat. With ballast, to
Re: [bolger] Re: water proof wood (12 messages)
Wed Oct 01 2003
...........And long before Epoxy was invented. pvanderwaart wrote: sheathing other than glass could be used on boats ... It has
Re: [bolger] Re: Peter L: About Alisa (9 messages)
Wed Oct 01 2003
Wow! Big boat , Huh? Like to see is roaring up the Platte in spring flood. Jeff wrote: Wanted: Wyo Update conplete w/recent
Bolger Brick and Duckworks Jointability Article (2 messages)
Wed Oct 01 2003
I put the title in but it never posted. John ... just ... copper. ... to ... Before ... just ... can ... how ... the ... find ... & ... a ... cut ... most ...
Camper #640 (16 messages)
Thu Oct 02 2003
Howdy Has anybody built a Camper, design #640? Thanks See Ya Have Fun Bruce http://myweb.cableone.net/bcanderson/
Re: [bolger] Re: A Man, A Plan, A Drill Press... (8 messages)
Thu Oct 02 2003
No slot and no screw in the chuck, so it must be a press-fit press. More after this weekend (boat events to distract me from fiddling in shop!) -- Craig
Re: Drascombe design by Bolger (2 messages)
Fri Oct 03 2003
I sailed a Drascombe longboat for years. I don t know of a similar design from Bolger & Friends, but they have over 650 of them. You can always ask! Welsford
AS-29 ballast - Re: plastic coating (21 messages)
Fri Oct 03 2003
My AF3, Cream Cheese, cost 2300 without the trailer, but I could have gotten it down to 1500 if I had really tried which I wasn t. An I only used ACX plywood
Re: A sad day for Alisa -- not so! (15 messages)
Fri Oct 03 2003
Sam Devlin describes something simiar. Sounds practical to me! Thanks. Frank
Intro and Hull Rot (2 messages)
Sun Oct 05 2003
Hi all, I am Mickey Sadler in Dublin, Ohio. I have just about worn out the library s copy of BWAOM. Guess I better get one of my own. I have not decide what to
Re: [bolger] Re: I Feel Cheated!! (5 messages)
Sun Oct 05 2003
need one for design, i have some questions too, whens the next chat ... Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search [Non-text
Re: Sunday night Chat??? (3 messages)
Sun Oct 05 2003
Paul, Pep and I are online now. See ya . Bruce
Re: stich and glue, strength (2 messages)
Sun Oct 05 2003
The chine log is not necessary in a true stitch and glue design. However, some still use fiberglass/epoxy to reinforce and provide abrasion resistance to chine
Re: boat economics (1 message)
Sun Oct 05 2003
One very good reason to build your own boat is to have one you can lift. If you make your own out of plywood it can weigh a whole lot less than one made of
Re: [bolger] Re: Sneakeasy-like boat - Transom Width (3 messages)
Mon Oct 06 2003
I think reducing the size of the sneakeasy to be ludicrous, you d most likely end up with a very dissapointing and unsafe boat due to stability problems.It
Re: Boat Economics (11 messages)
Mon Oct 06 2003
... I agree, with the exception of emphasis. I would say that the above 20 market is more uniform in boat type than is the market for smaller boats. Most of
Re: [bolger] boat costs and fun/messabout (2 messages)
Mon Oct 06 2003
... There are several messabout groups across the nation where people with small craft are gathering and exploring areas just messingabout with their boats.
Re: Rot Doctor (4 messages)
Mon Oct 06 2003
... but did find what I think is the Canadian equivilant called S1 from Industrial Formulators in Vancouver. I used it extensively to prep the sole of the
Re: [Bolger3] Bolger Power Cruising Sharpies (1 message)
Mon Oct 06 2003
I m going to cross post to Bolger, it gets lots more traffic than Bolger3. I think Champlain is specced for a 10 HP outboard. I wouldn t bother with the
Re: scarfing bottom flooring (1 message)
Mon Oct 06 2003
I wish you would speak to some of my sheets of plywood and an old boat I used to won. They haven t heard. ... snip ... mail2web - Check your email from the web
Re: Sail Question (1 message)
Tue Oct 07 2003
I ve seen a drawing for a gaff rig for Brick that must have a much shorter mast. Doesn t it come with the Brick plans? I could look myself but I m not at home
[bolger] Re: Brick Sail Question (10 messages)
Tue Oct 07 2003
... I did find it. Yes, the individual file links are a pain. That bal lug should have a higher peak. Craig O Donnell Sinepuxent Ancestors & Boats
Re: [bolger] Filling screw holes (3 messages)
Tue Oct 07 2003
... diabetic friend ) and squirt a bit of semi-thickened epoxy in the screw holes. I use just a touch of microfibers to thicken and cut the syringe point
RE: [bolger] Re: Overheard at St. Michaels (6 messages)
Wed Oct 08 2003
Stir crazy... ah, know the feeling; was teetering on the edge of building a Michalak AF4 in a rented storage locker (no AC power, to boot). Came to my senses
Re: Seabird Variations (21 messages)
Thu Oct 09 2003
... She s beautiful, and I m having to forcibly remind myself that I really don t need yet another boat on top of the Insolent 60. :-) How much does she weigh
Re: [bolger] Re: Yuloh for Micro. (19 messages)
Thu Oct 09 2003
Don t make it complicated! The idea is to throw water aft. If the blade is at right angles to the boat s axis, a downward pull on the loom will do it. If the
Re: [bolger] Re: Fast Brick redux (4 messages)
Thu Oct 09 2003
Ya the skids are what he calls quarter skids and look to be 1.5 x 1.5 on the back three feet of each chine. Phil says, Power: 2.5hp to 9.9hp 20 lobgshaft
Re: Sneakeasy modification (4 messages)
Thu Oct 09 2003
... Fritz mentions an error in the plans for frame 6. It is not to scale. I think foredeck height should be 0,8,2 instead of 0,7,6. You can cross check by
More on glassing with film (1 message)
Fri Oct 10 2003
Here s a link to a photo (70K) of the finished glassed panel. A bit out of focus, but you can see both the lovely smooth surface -- and a bit of the waviness.
[bolger] Re: Sneakeasy-like boat gets out of hand (4 messages)
Fri Oct 10 2003
Thought of that, but it would be a bit much to swap the things while keeping things watertight. That s what bulkheads are for. Build two tails! -- C.E.P. 415
[bolger] Re: Cat Ketch Zephyr (10 messages)
Fri Oct 10 2003
Others have mentioned Jinni, which is probably better suited. If you still want Zephyr s narrow beam for speed, think about the old sharpie trick of a second
Moaning chair moment of the day (1 message)
Fri Oct 10 2003
Just because it s October, that doesn t mean that fast hardener is always necessary, or appropriate, especially on days when the temperature approaches 80. I
Re: Chebacco mains'l block / cleating (5 messages)
Fri Oct 10 2003
Hi Dick If you are looking for real traditional stuff, then your rope stropped block is probably what you want. However, for real simplicity, try a dinghy
Re: Long distance cruising (1 message)
Sat Oct 11 2003
The Meadowlark, at 36 feet with an 8 foot beam and weighing 11,000 lbs makes between 5.8 and 6.3 kts with a diesel fuel consumption of about 1 pint per hour.
Re: AS-29 plans (4 messages)
Sat Oct 11 2003
Depending on whether I sell mine, I will be doing some of the upgrades. Frank Landenberg, PA
Re: flat glass (1 message)
Sun Oct 12 2003
I ve been looking at this thread now and then. Seems like if it takes an hour, then it would be just as easy and give better results to vacuum bag, if the
Re: [bolger] Re: flat glassing with 20 mil film (17 messages)
Mon Oct 13 2003
... Amine blush is on the surface. -- Craig O Donnell Sinepuxent Ancestors & Boats The Proa FAQ
Re: stainless steel (6 messages)
Mon Oct 13 2003
... there a way to solder or braze with map gas torch two pieces of stainless together, I tried bending but bending only makes cracks If these are boat parts
Re: Vac pumps - was scarfing bottom flooring (10 messages)
Mon Oct 13 2003
... that ... Is there an online primer for home vac. bagging? A list of simple instructions and equipment? I have a shop vac and an automotive AC vacuum pump.
Re: Plans cost (3 messages)
Mon Oct 13 2003
... Actually, I had photo-copied that page out of a library copy years ago and recently enlarged it on the copier at work. Don t know if I would ever build one
Re: Savannah redux (9 messages)
Mon Oct 13 2003
Rav, I live on St. Simons. Your post stripped your off-group email. Mine is jamessloan@mindspring.com Contact me off list sometime since we re in the same
RE: [bolger] "Houston,LESTAT has landed"! (4 messages)
Tue Oct 14 2003
Not off topic at all, as far as I m concerned. Who wouldn t want to build a mighty Bolger Micro after reading this. You know, of course, Peter, that you
Looking for a Clam Skiff website (1 message)
Tue Oct 14 2003
Looking for a Clam Skiff website My brother remembers reading a webnsite about a fellow who was building the Bolger Cabin Clam Skiff in stages. But, he didn t
Re: [bolger] to learn about epoxy, and fiberglass. boat making (2 messages)
Tue Oct 14 2003
Go to http://www.systemthree.com/index.html and root around (literature?) to where you fill out their form and can then download The Epoxy Book. It s free
Re: [bolger] Re: Plastikote Bed Liner (7 messages)
Tue Oct 14 2003
I would doubt Herculiner is affected by mildew. I can t imagine mildew being a big problem in a holding tank. Jeff ... From: proaconstrictor
Re: OT: Cleaning out my files (2 messages)
Tue Oct 14 2003
Thanks to those who responded to my earlier message, the GN-1 plans (but not the IMB sailboat plans) have been sold. I also received the following note from
RE: Houston,LESTAT has landed (1 message)
Wed Oct 15 2003
Silly me. When I first glanced at your subject line I thought for a minute Lestat had found a new home in Houston instead of Saskatchewan. I count myself truly
Re: Electric outboard question (3 messages)
Wed Oct 15 2003
Robin, Thanks Robin, The 15 miles is round trip, so he should be ok or fairly close. Kellan ... speed with a 110 amp hour deep cycle battery. He might get
i signed up under (13 messages)
Wed Oct 15 2003
i signed up under bonsii@mac.com but i cant access the net or the picts, data base, and ive been going round and round trying to edit stuff. my yahoo account
Re: WHAT'S THIS? (1 message)
Thu Oct 16 2003
When commenting on spam, it s a real good idea not to quote it or to keep the subject line. Several highly esteemed members of this list (Bruce and Peter among
Re: sail boat (9 messages)
Thu Oct 16 2003
A friend sailed his a lot, and I think raced it, so I tend to believe him when he says it was fast.
Re: [bolger] Re: scarfing vs butt joints (24 messages)
Thu Oct 16 2003
If you are building under a roof where you can wedge a few 2x4 s from ceiling to the bottom of the boat you shouldn t have any trouble adding a second layer
Re: looking for new boat plans (4 messages)
Fri Oct 17 2003
You might try http://www.instantboats.com/ which is Mr. H. H. Payson. He sells several of Bolger s designs including the Chebacco which sounds like it might be
Re: The mystery of the deserted daysailer (2 messages)
Sat Oct 18 2003
Sure looks like that Chebacco Samantha. I don t get what is cryptic about the note that was left - sounds like a free boat to me. Romayne ... the deserted
Re: glass layup (4 messages)
Sun Oct 19 2003
... second layer ... I use ... applied and ... Its best to keep putting the layers on in one go. ive done 5 layers of copped strand , then rollered, no
Re: cushions (3 messages)
Sun Oct 19 2003
Well, you didn t say not to, so you could cut it out and just leave an outline, then cover with aircraft Dacron a la Platt Monfort. Makes a very comfortable,
Re: Cartopper Mast Step (5 messages)
Sun Oct 19 2003
... the ... fine: Instead of a square mast made of the recommended 3/4 stock, consider making the mast round by cutting the raw 3-1/2 wide boards diagonally,
Re: Delmarva Boats (26 messages)
Sun Oct 19 2003
... around ... Boundary ... I d delighted to hear it! Now that you mention it, I think there might just be something about the way that boat looks... :-) Gav
Re: New Group idea (4 messages)
Sun Oct 19 2003
I like the idea. I also read can.rec.boating but not enough boat building threads. I do have a concern of diluting the pool of experiences we have here. just
Re: [bolger] Re: PL Premium failure (don't use over epoxy?) (29 messages)
Sun Oct 19 2003
... I m a fan obviously of PL glues like Gorilla Glue and I ve had to tear apart a whole bunch of stuff I ve glued with it without a joint failure. But, I
stackable mouseboats (1 message)
Mon Oct 20 2003
I rounded out the chines on my mouseboat #1 this weekend, but got caught up with this computer stuff. It reminds me a lot of the 12 plywood pirogue I had as
terminology police was Re: Re: PL Premium failure (don't use over epoxy?) (3 messages)
Mon Oct 20 2003
PL doesn t make Gorilla Glue, to my knowledge. PL is a brand name, isn t it? Don t you mean PU for polyurethane? I m only mentioning this because many times
stretching sharpies (1 message)
Mon Oct 20 2003
Just wanted to point out that, compared to June Bug, many other sharpies are already stretched. So there may be some leeway here.
Re: cold weather work (20 messages)
Mon Oct 20 2003
It s not all warm sunshine here. Despite our daytime highs in the 90 sF the overnight lows are now down to 40 sF and soon will be in the 30 sF. Burrrrrr! First
Re: a searchable, organized bolger photo archive (14 messages)
Mon Oct 20 2003
... or ... to ... I think that s a good idea, and I think the index is a great idea. As another poster pointed out, if we re not doing this on a for- profit
surf (5 messages)
Mon Oct 20 2003
i m in the planning stages of building surf. i built teal and sailed her all summer. i want something bigger, but want to use the same sail. other than the
Re: Paradox Chine Runners. (2 messages)
Mon Oct 20 2003
Hi Steve The following groups deal with Paradox a great deal. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/paradoxbuilders/ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/microcruising/ Best
Tracy O'Brien's "Kayleigh" (1 message)
Tue Oct 21 2003
I noticed that every once in a while Kayleigh comes up in a conversation. I was wondering if anyone on this list has actually built one. I am thinking about
Re: [bolger] Re: Junebug modified (13 messages)
Tue Oct 21 2003
You can also take a quick look at http://mission.base.com/pedal-power/pp_main.html ... From: Lee Rust To: bolger@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, October 20, 2003
Re: [bolger] Laminar flow (2 messages)
Wed Oct 22 2003
... Laminar flow is not a laminar foil or whatever was mentioned earlier. It s also nearly impossible to achieve in small boat foils; air is not water
Re: Bantam stretch (2 messages)
Wed Oct 22 2003
I m glad to hear the stretch works so well, since I m building the same hull 8-). How about posting a few photos? I have to decide whether to build the
Re: fairing the rudder (11 messages)
Wed Oct 22 2003
Let me make a simplified point for those who have not be following the details of the NACA foil sections, etc. If a rudder (or any foil) is at a high angle of
Bolger boat builders (1 message)
Thu Oct 23 2003
Hello, Are there any boat builders in Reno, Nevada using Bolger designs? Thank you, Dan Woods LDWoods2@aol.com [Non-text portions of this message have been
Re: [bolger] Re: Homemede portlights [was drawing program] (14 messages)
Thu Oct 23 2003
... I thought it was Ralph Wiley, a designer? builder? from the Chesapeake area? Oxford? WWII era, but heck, I could be wrong, this morning I couldn t even
Box keel for WINDEMERE (1 message)
Thu Oct 23 2003
For those interested in box keel development I have posted a couple of photos to the Bolger 3 site. To see them go to the Files and open the WINDERMERE folder.
Re: [bolger] Lake Jordan Alabama Messabout 2003 Photos! (2 messages)
Thu Oct 23 2003
Link does not work for me... ... From: Wayne Farris To: Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2003 10:37 PM Subject:
Messabout ALERT (1 message)
Fri Oct 24 2003
Short notice I realize. Tomorrow, Saturday October 25th, dozens, perhaps hundreds, of Bolger designed boats will gather in the California Delta for the 87th
Re: [bolger] Gypsy for sale (2 messages)
Fri Oct 24 2003
Pittsburgh - must sell - $400 or make offer. Any people say home building isn t a good value! -- C.E.P. 415 W.46th Street New York, New York 10036
October 2003 Messabout (1 message)
Sun Oct 26 2003
The October 2003 California Delta Messabout was an event that many of you will be sorry you missed. While not up to the the grandeur of the Great Kingston
Re: [bolger] Re: Bolger "Box Keel" More Thanks (18 messages)
Sun Oct 26 2003
You got it. I wouldn t worry about planing since your concern addressed low speed handling. You might want to consider adding a white light to the bow and
Re: fairing rudder (laminar, etc) (7 messages)
Sun Oct 26 2003
I m not an expert on a broader issue like that, but I suspect it s NOT the centerboard, since if I m not mistaken lots of boats that go upwind ok have this
Great boat book (1 message)
Sun Oct 26 2003
I found a great book by Dave Gerr, naval arch. - The Nature Of Boats : Insight and Esoterica For The Nautically Obessesed. It is about the how and why of all
RE: displacement vs. dry weight? (4 messages)
Sun Oct 26 2003
Thanx Peter and Nels for the weighty insights. That s kinda what I thought. It s just that the occasional comment has confused me. Someone once remarked that a
RE: [bolger] Re: You can never have too many clamps.... (6 messages)
Mon Oct 27 2003
Hi Nels ... Thanks for the kind words :) Cheers Bruce http://myweb.cableone.net/bcanderson/
Re: Question on Halyards for Gaff Rig (Light Schooner) (5 messages)
Mon Oct 27 2003
Ah, now that makes good, practical sense! Are you sure film is a good place for you to be working? ;) Thanks a bunch! I think that ll give me a little
URL Change (1 message)
Mon Oct 27 2003
I m not in control of the bonebrains at my ISP, who a few years back insisted on using http://www2.friend.ly.net/~dadadata for the Cheap Pages. Now without
[bolger] Re: Camp Cruising Question (4 messages)
Tue Oct 28 2003
... Yes, good thought. -- Craig O Donnell Sinepuxent Ancestors & Boats The Proa FAQ
Re: BOLGER.COM (6 messages)
Wed Oct 29 2003
... Bolger did a revision of the Catfish with as a standard daysailing catboat, filling the gap between Bobcat and Chebacco. If you like catboats, it s worth a
"Boat Sport" article (1 message)
Wed Oct 29 2003
Hi all - Need a copy of the article in 1st issue of this mag (May 52?)on Johnson KR-55 hop-up. Glad to pay for it. Any help? Thanks.
Re: BOLGER.COM (9 messages)
Thu Oct 30 2003
Do you mean the Micro Navigator? If you cold mold her, you end up with an inferior home-made plywood! I have built 3 cold molded boats (2 of them one
glass and wood, etc. (2 messages)
Thu Oct 30 2003
Fiberglass is pretty elastic stuff. It s not at all clear to me that woven glass over ply (I m not talking about taped joints) does much more than protect the
Re: [bolger] Rowing across the Atlantic (2 messages)
Thu Oct 30 2003
where do I get more info on that rowing across the atlantic, and to groups on this subject?? ... Do you Yahoo!? Exclusive Video Premiere - Britney Spears
RE: [bolger] Teal oars, etc. (2 messages)
Thu Oct 30 2003
Hmmmm.... Brent, I happen to like 8 ft oars for my 9 Welsford Sherpa; I think shorter oars make for a choppy stroke. 6 ft oars may be too short. A lot of
Re: another glass idea (4 messages)
Thu Oct 30 2003
... to ... tape, ... with ... not ... Hi Nels, I m sorry......I did not go into greater detail.Was distracted by a list of things to do before the BOSS came
Re: Teal oars (1 message)
Thu Oct 30 2003
If you ve got the time, make your own spruce oars. So much lighter than commercial ash ones. Of course, if you can get commercial spruce ones, go for it. (I
Re: [bolger] slow verse fast cure (2 messages)
Fri Oct 31 2003
... Epoxy doesn t contain wax or solvents, but the slow cook might allow it more time to soak in. I prefer slow anyway because I have had too many panic
Re: Penetrating Epoxies (60 messages)
Fri Oct 31 2003
... . He fills the wood with penetrating ... kinds ... Capt n Nels! Were you once a used car salesman? Sounds like you could sell Freezers to Eskimos :-)
Re: M82 benjermine more, or chem prime (9 messages)
Fri Oct 31 2003
... wile ... Kris, I have had fantasic results with BM polyamide epoxy primer M33- M34......works great on epoxy coated surface. The M28 stuff would appear to
easy seam solution (1 message)
Fri Oct 31 2003
Take it easy and just stand further back when looking! That s what I do.