May 2002
Re: [bolger] Re: Off Topic - Boat Insurance - "Statement of Condition" (7 messages)
Wed May 01 2002
there could be. There s a boat repair shop up in Robbinsdale (near HWY 100 & 81) that probably does surveying type stuff, or could point you in the right
Re: Help wanted!! (6 messages)
Wed May 01 2002
The work skiff is much harder to get on and off the roof rack. I have found the smaller the boat, the more use it gets! Lamenting the lack of time to go in
Re: Electric Boat (4 messages)
Wed May 01 2002
... I was concerned about that too, though the Miller Big Blue 251D is rated @40V DC 250A at 100% duty cycle per their spec sheet. These welders can be used
vacuum bagging (2 messages)
Thu May 02 2002
Some web sites say a shop vac can pull 4 of Hg. 1 of Hg = about 70 lbs. per square foot, so using a shop vac would be like placing 280 lbs of weight on each
Re:Champlain displacement (2 messages)
Thu May 02 2002
I am projecting the loaded displacement of Dakota at about 6000#. For Champlain I would guess about half that amount. Vince Chew
Re: Micro Booms (9 messages)
Fri May 03 2002
Peter, Thanks for the information. I wondered if you had any problems with it. It should be strong enough that way since the load is in shear as you said.
Re: [bolger] Re: Fillet recipe? (29 messages)
Fri May 03 2002
It isn t the limestone that is expensive it is the use of epoxy, labour, and the weight. Mix two pots of gunk using PL and microballons, with enough Cabosil
Re: [bolger] Re: Lofting Spur II (20 messages)
Fri May 03 2002
Here it be. http://www.messingaboutinboats.com/archives/mbissueaugust01.html Sorry about the wrap. ... __________________________________________________ Do
Re: 2002 Vermont Messabout Dates (8 messages)
Sat May 04 2002
August 17-18 works for me, I think. Maybe I ll have my Queen Mab done in time. I m hoping I don t set myself on fire again this year.... porky
Re: [bolger] Re: vacuum bagging and electric motor question (3 messages)
Sun May 05 2002
Checked the relay, appears to be fine. Tried a diferent start capacitor, just hummed. Put the original capacitor back on, blasted thing kicked over and is
Re: [bolger] Re: Illinois: This is the Bolger I want! (7 messages)
Sun May 05 2002
The Wyoming should have no problem coming up the Inside Passage in the summer. You wouldn t believe some of the vessels that make it here to the northern end
Building Gypsy week four (1 message)
Sun May 05 2002
Put on all the decking and glassed it. The deck turned out much nicer than the bottom of the boat – nothing like a little practice to improve your technique.
Re: [bolger] Chebacco_Progress__week_one (3 messages)
Sun May 05 2002
I think the argument is a lot like woodworking with traditional tools. The old ways were sometimes better, and often as fast, but they were also usualy more
Teal Rudder and Tiller for sale (1 message)
Sun May 05 2002
I had the pleasure of building a Bolger Teal back in 1990. I later built a Kick-up rudder for her which went with the boat when I sold her. I recently found
Teal Parts (1 message)
Sun May 05 2002
I had the pleasure of building a Bolger Teal back in 1990. I later built a Kick-up rudder for her which went with the boat when I sold her. I recently found
Finding MDO (1 message)
Sun May 05 2002
There is a difference between what a local lumber yard carries , and what it can get for you as a special order. I live in a small northern Michigan town. My
Re: [bolger] Dams, and Politics, Channel Flow of the Mighty Missouri (2 messages)
Mon May 06 2002
In a message dated 5/5/02 9:29:01 PM Central Daylight Time, ... Oh boy, is it! The poster-boy for the opposition to revised river-flow management plan is a
RE: [bolger] re: 36 hour days (8 messages)
Mon May 06 2002
I also would be interested in the response you get when you introduce these ideas to your company. Neither Stone and Webster nor Polaroid were intrigued. May
Re: [bolger] Digest Number 1003 . . . 3/8ths MDO (3 messages)
Mon May 06 2002
You could probably get it from Harbor Sales, 1 800 345 1712, northern Eastern Shore of Maryland. If you can give them a bus address, they may deliver free in
No Room at the Files Inn. (1 message)
Mon May 06 2002
Sorry, I can t upload the MDO specs in a WPD or any other format (The others .rft or .txt don t work anyway due to the tables that just won t translate into an
Re: MODERATOR: No Room at the Files Inn. (2 messages)
Mon May 06 2002
Thanks for the info GHC. Jeeze there is a lot of interest in Bolger boats. OK, I uploaded the files on MDO stresses and strengths in .WPD and .RFT (Rich Field
new Micro Pictures (1 message)
Mon May 06 2002
Group, Some of you asked for pictures of Firefly in progress. I have obliged by updating my web page. Go to
Re: [bolger] Re: How Did MDO Turn Out? (22 messages)
Mon May 06 2002
I tried to buy direct from them, but they wouldn t sell to me. They would only sell through a dealer, who doesn t live any where near where I do (near as in
Re: [bolger] Re: Dakota, I want one! (136 messages)
Mon May 06 2002
Prop shaft and prop is the simplest and most efficient solution. The problem is draft. You can run the mercruiser almost all the way retracted at low RPM s to
Re: [bolger] Re: Laminating Plywood (37 messages)
Tue May 07 2002
Why nail? just let the two plies float. Realisticaly we want some load sharing, and if you don t use glue, your nailing pattern might go from 1 centers to
Re: [bolger] Digest Number 1005 - Harbor Sales (2 messages)
Tue May 07 2002
Maybe try a sign maker in your area. Clyde
dinghy painter versus bridle? (1 message)
Tue May 07 2002
Hi All, I m just finishing up a Bolgeresque dinghy, essentially a Tortoise with plumb ends, made from 1/8 Okume ply for lightness. It is to go on the deck of
Re: [bolger] Re: pouring lead - lost foam process (13 messages)
Tue May 07 2002
There is more to it and here it is: Making the daggerboard One of my design modifications was the centerboard. Sharpies usually carry a drop type of board
Re: [bolger] Re: Square Two Sheet Skiff (7 messages)
Tue May 07 2002
I agree with your characterization, but it doesn t get the makers of these arguments anywhere unless they put numbers on it, and then the results are
Re: [bolger] Re: MDO in NZ? (10 messages)
Tue May 07 2002
Thanks for this and other replies. Howard In a message dated 07-05-02 5:03:21 PM E. Australia Standard Time, ... [Non-text portions of this message have been
Martha Jane For Sale -- HOUSTON (1 message)
Tue May 07 2002
Ever wanted a Martha Jane but the size of the project would take too long to complete? Now is your chance to get one, for much less than just the material cost
Okoumestock Near Annapolis (1 message)
Wed May 08 2002
Let me mention one last time that CLC s OkoumeStock is this Saturday and Sunday at Camp Letts on the Rhode River. Friday from noon to 5 we have an Open Shop at
RE: [bolger] Re: Two Things, and back from a long sleep (5 messages)
Thu May 09 2002
How does this affect our British cousins on Boxing day? ... From: timothyennuinet [mailto:timothy@ennui.net] Sent: Thursday, May 09, 2002 12:14 AM To:
Re: [bolger] Re: Chebacco CG (6 messages)
Thu May 09 2002
That corrisponds to my answer determined by the SWAG method. Thanks. (that is with the motor?)(that is just in front of the batteries for the
Re: [bolger] Re: Hmm... scoring ply for a better join? (11 messages)
Fri May 10 2002
On the subject of avoiding adhesive-starved joints/laminations.... I seem to recall reading a piece advising placing a light mesh cloth- gauze, cheesecloth,
Re: vacuum bagging and TiteBond II (22 messages)
Sat May 11 2002
TightBond s water resistance might be a moot issue if you seal the mast with either epoxy or paint. The mast won t be subject to immersion and have to just
Clipping Replies and HTML Coded Messages (4 messages)
Sun May 12 2002
It s possible for the moderator to set the list so that it removes all attachments, including HTML coding, from incoming messages. I can t understand why that
The Helen P. Foster under sail (1 message)
Sun May 12 2002
Went down to the boatyard this morning before going to church and found the building open. Went in rigged up the sail and mast, dollied the boat down to the
Re: 2002 VERMONT MESSABOUT DETAILS (2 messages)
Sun May 12 2002
Dear FBBB, I am quite disappointed that I cannot attend the messabout this year. Job, and family commitments have taken control of Saturday the 17th and the
Re: Diablo Launched (2 messages)
Sun May 12 2002
In an experiment done two summers ago, we matched my 10hp 2 cycle Johnson against a 10 hp 4 stroke honda on my Diablo. The Johnson planed the boat easily with
Re: [bolger] Re: Fiberglassing prior to assembly (19 messages)
Sun May 12 2002
My most spectacular boat building moment was taking the wires out of a hull with my car battery. Better than a Roman candle. The Gougeons are for precoating
Re: Launch of the Helen P. Foster (4 messages)
Mon May 13 2002
Hi Paul I had forgotten the Micro. I had a nice chat with him last summer. We may have to have a Bolger photo op sometime with the three boats, and post them
Re: [bolger] Reefing on a Micro (2 messages)
Mon May 13 2002
http://marina.fortunecity.com/breakwater/274/1999/0701/Index.htm#Reefing%20S harpie%20Sprit%20Sails
Re: Whisper Gen (11 messages)
Mon May 13 2002
My interest in the WhisperGen was because of the following perceived pluses: 1. Extremely quiet. The water lapping on the side of the boat drowns out the noise
RE: [bolger] Re: Have any of you considered using UHMW Bottom Pro tection? (2 messages)
Tue May 14 2002
I your boat is epoxy/glass sheathed, and you used the gluable UHMW, then there wouldn t be a problem. If you bolt to the bottom of the boat, then you have all
Re: How a Micro Sails (8 messages)
Tue May 14 2002
I get a kick out of sitting in my cockpit, in 12 - 15 kts of breeze, waving to the other skippers with one hand, the other wrapped around a drink while they
Re: [bolger] Wyo update (12 messages)
Tue May 14 2002
Thomas: Reading over your response, I remember that my butt blocks were thin ply and were glued only with no clenched nails. Probably they were not very good
Re: Photo of the Helen P. Foster (4 messages)
Tue May 14 2002
Paul -- Sorry I missed the initial post about your first sail -- I ve been so busy lately I can t even read the Bolger Group most days -- what a sad state of
16' Bolger Cat Yawl at Yachtworld.com (1 message)
Tue May 14 2002
Check out this Bolger boat. I ve never heard of it before. Maybe others on the list know about it. Enjoy, Dennis
Re: Helena Mt. to New Orleans (39 messages)
Tue May 14 2002
Here s the boat. http://www.gartsideboats.com/catrow2.php#pedal
Re: [bolger] Re: Have any of you considered using UHMW Bottom Protection? (10 messages)
Tue May 14 2002
It is also used for rails which snow machine tracks run on, eliminating the wheels which the original models had. Works very well for dog sled runners also, I
Re: transport ideas/clarification (8 messages)
Wed May 15 2002
Hi Harry, No, not Puget Sound. It means that I m trying to see if I can get the Tennessee to Petersburg, AK. Idea is to either run up from Prince Rupert or put
Re: [bolger] Fiddling with Sails (2 messages)
Wed May 15 2002
... It s a lot of sail. Takes up a great deal of room inside the boat when you take it down. Has to be reefed in any kind of breeze. I m turning my Windsprint
re lead melting (1 message)
Wed May 15 2002
try building a loose brick wall aruond it all to reflect the radiated heatback ont the vessel. also get a air pump or compressor to blow in extra air. I melt
Lake Bennett Builders? (1 message)
Wed May 15 2002
Greetings Bolgeristas, Is there anyone in the group who lives on or near Lake Bennett, YT, such as Carcross, or even Bennett itself? If so, please email me at
Re: pre-assembly glassing (6 messages)
Wed May 15 2002
Paul means look in the files section (on the left) and look under Junebug, he has some pictures there. Steve ... unfamiliar with ... love to ... then ...
Re: thinking about rigging (14 messages)
Wed May 15 2002
He He, OK you ve convinced me! I m going to rig my boat with galvanized wire, served with hemp! (That s pretty open statement I suppose) Jules ... wire?
Forge (1 message)
Wed May 15 2002
I ve made a couple of coal forges. Take a rear brake drum and weld up a tuyere out of an iron pipe Tee screwed into a floor flange that bolts to the center
Re:Tortoise (27 messages)
Wed May 15 2002
I haven t sailed my Tortoise, but I have towed it, rowed it, and even used a 2HP Johnson outboard on mine for the past 4 years. Bolger was constrained in this
Re: tortoise (5 messages)
Thu May 16 2002
JW, Brick is Bolger s stab at most boat from three sheets of plywood ever. Another nice option is the Grout connector, available from PB&F. It lets you join
Re: [bolger] (1 message)
Thu May 16 2002
... Will ... of ... From my experience anyway, you can cut very nice curves with a Skil saw. I use a thin plywood blade. It has a lot of small teeth with a
Re: [bolger] (2 messages)
Thu May 16 2002
You can cut a curve with a skill saw, just don t over extend the blade, the further it projects the flatter a curve it may cut. Also the more vertically the
Re: [bolger] (1 message)
Thu May 16 2002
If your using epoxy, maybe put a narrow strip of epoxy on the cut line, let it setup. That would also stop most of the tear out also, but add another day of
Re: [bolger] Re: Homebuilt Forge (22 messages)
Thu May 16 2002
Right, blacksmith stuff, perhaps one could adapt the guts of what you have described, but you don t want to keep reheating the whole part, just the part you
Re: [bolger] (2 messages)
Thu May 16 2002
Oh dear...my poor Micro Firefly has now been declared of questionable pedigree. I have used a Sears Industrial Model Circular Saw for 90% of the building.
RE: [bolger] (1 message)
Thu May 16 2002
Agreed! I rebuilt the whole second floor of my house with a Sears radial arm saw, am now using a small Sears table saw, etc, etc. Also have a gift
RE: [bolger] (3 messages)
Thu May 16 2002
The best replaceable blade saws I have ever bought came from Toshiro s in Seattle, though that was a while ago, but I think he still has them. I don t recall
Re: [bolger] (4 messages)
Thu May 16 2002
I have to confess, however, that I am an approach-the-line kind of guy, and usualy end up going the last thou. by hand. Given that, I have used the Bosch
Re: [bolger] (1 message)
Thu May 16 2002
Dave Carnell sells the Mashita blade for $26, and it is the best for laminates and plywood that I have ever used. http://home.att.net/~DaveCarnell/ HJ
Re: 16-foot Bolger Cat Yawl? (5 messages)
Thu May 16 2002
Gee, you re right. I thought Jinni was about 19-1/2 feet long. ... cruiser, design #426, 15 6 x 4 2 . I have a set of the plans. Jim Michalak built one.
Re: [bolger] (1 message)
Thu May 16 2002
I use both, but find the skilsaw is easier to follow a line with. When we were cutting out the panels for three Cartoppers at once, the skil saw was the only
RE: [bolger] (2 messages)
Fri May 17 2002
How does diameter of blade affect cut on a curve? Seems that a smaller diameter would follow curve better. How about using smaller diameter
Re: Single handed liveaboards, Jessie Cooper, and ? (10 messages)
Fri May 17 2002
... I believe we have a list member who s currently commissioning PCB for just such a design, for all-weather use. I m not sure how out he is about this
Micro sugery (1 message)
Fri May 17 2002
In a message dated 05/17/2002 12:
Re: Micro surgery (6 messages)
Fri May 17 2002
Jeb, did you consider fixing the second layer of ply to the outside of the bottom? This would give a much better and stronger result, with less chance of
Re: [bolger] Re: Electric Smoothie (15 messages)
Sat May 18 2002
Real big help, I missed these web sites in my search. As you pointed out, they are not as easy to find as you might think. I suspect that the low volumne/price
Re: Micro Surgery (1 message)
Sat May 18 2002
Thanx David, Thomas and all re. suggestions for dealing with questionable chine logs. Think I ll grind them all down so a true assessment can be made of their
RE: (1 message)
Sun May 19 2002
Used a batten,clamped at the ends and supported with nails, batten width + halve of jigsaw from the edge, as a guide produces a lovely curved cut. regards
Re: [bolger] Re: Fabric (21 messages)
Mon May 20 2002
... No, I don t believe it s a knit. It s a woven fabric much like fiber glass. The picture on the website for fabrics is not Olifin, at least not what I m
Re: Micro Mizzen Sail Setting (2 messages)
Mon May 20 2002
Hi M.Roberts, Regarding your mizzen;hopefully the sailmaker cut this sail flat otherwise you ll always experience excessive bagging.If the sail is indeed cut
Yahoo want to charge for groups (1 message)
Tue May 21 2002
I have just come across a survey by Yahoo. It appears they want to start charging group administrators and group users. If they do start fee based groups they
Re: [bolger] Re: Best tender for catamaran (11 messages)
Tue May 21 2002
I am with Bruce on this, Crystal would be a good choice. Defender 11 and Spur 2 15 or so would all be good choices. These were all designed to be tenders,
Oldshoe vs. Japanese Beach Cruiser, etc. (1 message)
Tue May 21 2002
I am contemplating building a daysailer/camp cruiser for use on the many lakes here in Tennessee. While the Oldshoe is an obvious choice, I am also intrigued
It's a wing keel; was pouring lead frustrations (1 message)
Tue May 21 2002
Okay, gang, here it goes again. Did this last night and then managed to lose the message. Somehow seems appropriate. Anyway, with the help of your
Update: JMRudholm's Electric Bolger Boats (1 message)
Wed May 22 2002
The original description of his electric outboard project. http://www.psnw.com/~jmrudholm/etekoutboard.html At the bottom of the page you can pick this all up.
Re: [bolger] Looking for a Stone Horse (2 messages)
Wed May 22 2002
Lovely boat. Yacht World has a few. Go to http://yachtworld.com/boats/index.html.en, enter Edey and Duff as the builder. Good luck Larry
Re: !7 foot Diablo Launched - Photos on Web (4 messages)
Thu May 23 2002
Also, there is an 18 version of the Diablo (Diablo Grande) available from Payson (http://www.instantboats.com/). It is not just stretched but also a bit wider
Re: [bolger] Re: Anti Rot (20 messages)
Thu May 23 2002
Right, and he had a few warnings about some of the Carnell things we have previously discussed.--- sanmi wrote: In "Wooden Boat"
Re: [bolger] 15 years of Nymph (12 messages)
Thu May 23 2002
Yes, that s how I do it anyway. If using nails, dimple the head down, if using screws run them into the panel slightly so they can be covered with epoxy and
Olifin (1 message)
Thu May 23 2002
I have finished the lay up of about 25 yards of Olifin fabric on the first section of the Wyoming. A couple thoughts I have about Olifin. 1. ALWAYS coat the
New Magazine (1 message)
Fri May 24 2002
Shameless promotion dept: I just got a copy of Jim Betts (he is the guy who designed the GP-16 and other boats) new magazine. It is called International
Re: [bolger] Re: Leaks in the bow well ? (10 messages)
Fri May 24 2002
The filleting and taping can be done with longist sticks, such as when sealing halves of a kayak. Getting the thing ready for sealing might be more difficult.
Re: UHMWPE (7 messages)
Sat May 25 2002
Thanks Jeff, Found it right away http://www.crownplastics.com/specs.htm I saw scads of sites describing the powder and its applications. BTW, that the same
Turning Windsprint Into Trimaran (1 message)
Sun May 26 2002
Well, I finally finished turning my Windsprint into a trimaran. Tomorrow or Monday I should be able to get her on the lake and take a trial sail. The beam of
Re: [bolger] Mast hoops (16 messages)
Sun May 26 2002
That sounds like a good way, and would appeal to me. Steaming and riviting would probably be just as easy, or easier, so it shouldn t be discounted out of
Re: Chebacco Mast (2 messages)
Sun May 26 2002
Peter, Sorry,but I m a Micrologist ;-),however I ll hazard a stab at your question by guessing that either the lid for the slot serves to lock the mast in
RE: as29 leaks (1 message)
Sun May 26 2002
In the interest of completeness: I ve been restoring my AS29. There were leaks at all four ends of the bilgeboard cases, with cracking of the fiberglass
Re: Lapstrake learning experiment. (6 messages)
Sun May 26 2002
On topic at least... Another day plugging away at a Spur II http://www.hallman.org/bolger/spur/hour32/
Messabout Photos (3 messages)
Mon May 27 2002
I ve put some photos of the recent Fern Ridge Lake Spring Messabout here: http://www.boat-links.com/messabout/ The first double-ended Bolger light dory (from
Re: [bolger] Light schooner bowsprit (3 messages)
Mon May 27 2002
I am not too sure I understand the detail, but why not some hardware bonded ss studs, that come up through the side of the spar, with cap nuts on top? If the
Re: [bolger] Australian outlet for plans and books for Bolger designs?? (2 messages)
Tue May 28 2002
You almost have to look at Tim Fatchen s Light Schooner page and talk to him if you can. Clyde
Re: Gullapalooza! (7 messages)
Tue May 28 2002
... I wound up taking film cameras along, rather than my digital camera, so it ll be a few days before I get the photos back for posting. David took some
Re: [bolger] Epoxy - "potting", drilling? (8 messages)
Tue May 28 2002
In a message dated 5/28/02 6:37:37 AM Central Daylight Time, ... NOOOOO!!! I have West Marine s house brand silicone sealant, touted as being Excellent for
Re: Something not Completely Different (5 messages)
Wed May 29 2002
Plyboats is at http://www.plyboats.com/index.html It looks like pretty good software and at $150 or so, not too bad.
Re: [bolger] Digest Number 1034 - Bottom Paint (1 message)
Wed May 29 2002
When I first decided to keep my boat in the water {Delaware River - Philadelphia - brackish water - algae scum rather than barnacles} I followed the accepted
Re: [bolger] Re: Windsprint Trimaran On the Water (13 messages)
Thu May 30 2002
I hear you. The USCG on the other hand did accept certification of his charter cats using non-marine ply in a cylinder mold approach. That was a while ago.
Re: [bolger] Digest Number 1036 - Bottom Paint {YES or NO} (1 message)
Thu May 30 2002
Todd, Here s your life preserver. IF you are going to dry sail and be in the water no more than 72 hours at a time; 1) Paint it with whatever you like, have
Re: Bottom paint (14 messages)
Thu May 30 2002
... Excuse me for maybe thinking out of the box, how about at anchor taking a large blue poly tarp, tying stones on two corners with very long strings. Drop
Re: [bolger] To Cant or Not to Kant (4 messages)
Thu May 30 2002
In a message dated 5/29/02 11:59:30 PM Central Daylight Time, ... I think I would run a pair of stretchers lengthwise between the cross beams ( aka s?) and
Re: Gullapalooza photos (2 messages)
Fri May 31 2002
Susan, Bravo!!!Bellisimo!!! Neat photos.......now if I can just work this kink out of my neck,I ll be fine ;-) Looks like the weekend was very productive